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Unread 08-13-2017, 06:21 PM   #21
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Eric: I think the crimps on my loads look good with no open centers, no wad pressure on the sp-10. I had to add card wads to the red dot load versus 7625 since RD takes up much less room. Craig
I put an overshot card in my REM hull SP-10 wad with 16 gauge card wad in the shot cup and 1 1/4 ounce shot to keep the top flat . Oh yeah that's with 30 grains of SR7625 .
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OK I would like try and test Unique for 1 1/8oz low pressure 10ga target loads. I think I will start with 25gr. Hoping for less pressure versus red dot. Opinions?? Craig
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OK I would like try and test Unique for 1 1/8oz low pressure 10ga target loads. I think I will start with 25gr. Hoping for less pressure versus red dot. Opinions?? Craig
Craig I do not understand your desire to achieve a lower pressure load for the short ten than you have with these tested Red Dot loads. They are period correct loads that will not harm a sound composite barrel gun. Loads with pressures lower than these (especially the Federal hull load) is risking the possibility of squib loads especially in cold weather. When you are in the field it is heartbreaking to have a good shot only to have the shell fail when you pull the trigger. I can attest to these Red Dot loads in the federal hull working well in very cold temps, I use them crow hunting in January - March each year in temps in the low teens.
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OK Pete I respect your opinion. Thanks fro the input. Craig
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If you look at Alliants 12 G data lot of Unique loads for 1 1/8 oz at about the charge weights you mentioned. 12s are not 10s but all are fair amount higher in pressure than the 19 g Red dot 10 g load tested.

When powder was in short supply I tried to work up a 1150 fps 1 1/8 oz Short ten load with Unique. Everything at target velocity left a lot of unburned powder. Found a 23 G Green Dot load that worked, at higher velocity and unburned powder left in the bore. Drop it down to 1150 fps more unburned powder, not as bad as Unique still not very satisfactory.

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With a little research, I think you'll find that many BP and smokeless loads were as high or even higher than the pressures your loads are showing. Thanks for testing and showing the results. I shoot 19grs/RD and 1oz of shot in a 2 3/4" 10ga shell for clays and it works very well.
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As I stated in an earlier post, and has been restated by other posters, the Red Dot loads will not damage any good condition ten gauge and eliminates all cold weather performance problems that you could get with slower powders.
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it would be hard to find a load better than the 19 grain redot loadwith 1 1/8 ounce or 1 1/16 ounce of lead...its a good squirl load...charlie
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I just tried two of the RD 19 gr 1 1/8 ounce loads in the REM hull with three 16 gauge .125 card wads in the bottom of the cup . In my NH that's a rather pleasant load .
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