Vintage Gunners Cup 2024?

[Mills]

I enjoyed the year we had the PGCA annual meeting at Hopkins. To me, the best thing is seeing folks in person and getting to visit

[Dr Bob]

Harry is right in that there should be some reach out to an accessible mid-west/east of the Mississippi with a multi-day event like the Southern or Northeast (Haussman's). You need more than one day to attract vendors who hope to sell something or collectors associatios with a display or manufacturers competition. The far Upper Peninsula shoots are too far away to justify traveling for a 1 day expo.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Harry Gietler

The price of tables for Vendors is ''Outrageous'' High, and Most Spectators
and Shooters '' Don't Buy'' unless they can ''Steal'' the Item. Most of them have
more guns than they Need, and are not going to buy. What you need is some
NEW Blood and that is the Reason these Shoots should be Held at new places in the states like Ohio, a lot more people will come from Mid Western States. It's a Centrally located State and would draw 2-3 times the people, maybe More.

Harry

Sorry Harry, I'm not buying it. "New Blood" isn't going to pay $10K for a double gun. Any new blood that would attend would be looking to spend less on guns than "regulars" seen at the current multi-day shoots. Most of the "shoppers" would pretty much be curious as to what any vendors may have for sale and when they see most of the price tags they won't be back. You'll still have the usual cast of shooters that are into competition, but guys that are not serious competitors and have to travel quite a ways will pass.

I know Terry Reckart of LCSCA "fame" is putting together a two day shoot in OH this year. I can't comment on whether he's planning on vendors or if it's a shooting event only. I think he's in August?

[Dean Romig]

I would definitely travel to Ohio for a 3-day event.





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[Bill Murphy]

Harry and I agree that the vendor price is outrageous. The Vintagers should buy bigger tents and charge less for a booth. That is how to get people who honestly have things to sell to come and exhibit. The "Widow Lady" may bring her late husband's Parkers to the Vintage Cup if she didn't have to pay $500 for a couple of tables. I know The Lovely Linda won't come to the Vintagers with my Parkers and Foxes if she has to pay a fortune for a couple of tables.

[Craig Larter]

I think the days of attracting vendors to outdoor gun exhibits are behind us, three reasons, travel expense, vintage gun auctions and the internet marketplace. The main reason to attend in present times is to shoot and visit with friends. However, if Guyette and Deeter scheduled a gun auction on the same weekend as a Vintagers event at Pintail that would be a big success in my opinion. Dealers could set-up in the auction parking lot or tables sold at the auction facility. This is the formula G&D has used for their decoy auctions for years.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Harry and I agree that the vendor price is outrageous. The Vintagers should buy bigger tents and charge less for a booth. That is how to get people who honestly have things to sell to come and exhibit. The "Widow Lady" may bring her late husband's Parkers to the Vintage Cup if she didn't have to pay $500 for a couple of tables. I know The Lovely Linda won't come to the Vintagers with my Parkers and Foxes if she has to pay a fortune for a couple of tables.

Bill, no charge to sell anything at the Rock Mountain event. Just sayin’. Linda can bring your “stuff” here. I’m sure she can get what you told her you paid for them.

[Bill Murphy]

I disagree with Craig on about all points he makes. Sorry, Craig, but running two major check writing events several miles apart on the same day or weekend makes no sense at all. I have been at G&D auctions in Maryland for decades and no parking lot swap meet has ever been held while the auction is in progress. Maybe somewhere else, but not in Maryland. I am editing this post to say that my comments refer to parking lot events and did not mention the tables set up inside the building in the side room at G&D auctions. However, there is no parking lot event during the auction. Sorry for not fully explaining my post, Craig.

[Craig Larter]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

I disagree with Craig on about all points he makes. Sorry, Craig, but running two major check writing events several miles apart on the same day or weekend makes no sense at all. I have been at G&D auctions in Maryland for decades and no parking lot swap meet has ever been held while the auction is in progress. Maybe somewhere else, but not in Maryland.

They always have tables for dealers that are open for business during the auction.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Harry Gietler

IF What you are saying is thru, The Southern would be ''No More''. Most of the guys I know go their for the Vendors First, than the Shooting. Take away half the vendors, and attendance would Drop Sharply. Look what happened at the North East!

Harry

P.S. The Guys at the Southern Also Buy from the Vendors.

Well over 90% of the guys I know go to the Southern to shoot. Shopping is secondary. If they do look through the tents it’s for a very specific item or they look in the parking lots for good deals that walk-ins bring to sell.